Meghan McCain wonders if Taylor Swift expects karma

Meghan McCain is concerned about Taylor Swift It could be that you are “playing” with karma.

The previous view On the Monday, June 24 episode of her podcast, Citizen McCain, her co-host addressed the latest pop culture news, including unfounded speculation on social media that Swift, 34, intentionally excluded other pop stars from the No. 1 spot in her career.

Earlier this month, Swift released three new versions of her latest album, The “Tortured Poets” sectionin the UK, which helped the record stay at the top of the UK album charts for a sixth week. The limited-time deal secured enough sales to fend off the competition. Charli XCX‘s new album, bratwhich debuted at number 2 on the June 14 charts. Swift was accused last month of using similar tactics in the US to Billie Eilish‘s new album, Hit me hard and softfrom the top of the Billboard 200.

“You are Taylor Swift, you are Elvis-level, one of the greatest of all time,” McCain said on her podcast. “There are people coming who could have their first No. 1, and you have the power to give them No. 1 or not. … I just don’t know how noble that is.”

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McCain continued to think about it: “I also think that karmically you are messing up some things. I understand that The “Tortured Poets” section does it well…but I think maybe the focus should be more on the music and the art rather than counting on a scoreboard.”

McCain, who clarified that she is “not a fan” of the singer but does not consider herself a “Swiftie,” further questioned whether the public was tired of Swift, who is also in the midst of her global Epoch Tour and is in a high-profile relationship with the Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce.

“She can, with all due respect, go nowhere at this point,” McCain said. “She has TIME She’s been named Person of the Year by the magazine, this tour is so big… I think when she’s finished with her tour, it would be helpful for her and for us as commentators to take a little break from all the news.”

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McCain also said she found it “a little weird” that her fellow pop star Sabrina Carpenter said she had spoken to Swift, for whom Carpenter was the opening act on the Epoch Tour — about his appearance in a current campaign for Kim Kardashian‘s shapewear line SKIMS. Swift and Kardashian, 43, have been notoriously feuding in the past.

“I’ve talked to her a lot about this situation and I just love her so much and support her until the end,” said Carpenter, 25, Rolling Stone in an interview published on June 17.

“Was she afraid of retaliation from Taylor Swift or Taylor Swift’s fans?” McCain asked on the podcast on Monday. “I think we’re treading on some weird territory here – we’re river rafting down and there are some weird rapids in this Taylor Swift area. I find that kind of weird… what else would Taylor Swift do? Hurt her in the middle of the night? Set her fans on her?”